About the possibilities of finding traces of a long historical tradition in the sources of the 16th and 17th centuries

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The paper deals with one of the most serious problems in Tawantin Suyu and Qulla Suyu histort: the problem of long tradition. Did it exist a tradition describing events prior to the Cuzco conquest? If it did, where can we find its traces? Few early chroniclers describe events in Thiya Wanaku. Only t...

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Autor principal: Szeminski , Jan
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Publicado: Sección Etnohistoria, Instituto de Ciencias Antropológicas. FFyL, UBA 2005
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Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
long tradition
larga tradición
longa tradição
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spelling I28-R145-13461_oai2025-11-17 Szeminski , Jan 2005-02-01 The paper deals with one of the most serious problems in Tawantin Suyu and Qulla Suyu histort: the problem of long tradition. Did it exist a tradition describing events prior to the Cuzco conquest? If it did, where can we find its traces? Few early chroniclers describe events in Thiya Wanaku. Only two of them: Blas Valera, known through Anello Oliva's work and an anonymous author mentioned by Montesinos presented same date regarding a preceding tradition of Cuzco empire in Peru. By analyzing the "Relación de la provincia de los Pacaxes" this work suggests that the tradidion pointed out by the Corregidor in 1608, contained information about Thiya Wanaku. Thus, searching for long oral traditions, even with its limitations and difficulties, can give us interesting data.  El artículo trata uno de los problemas más graves de la historia del Tawantin Suyo en general y del Qulla Suyu en particular: el problema de la larga tradición. ¿Existió una tradición que describía acontecimientos anteriores a la conquista cuzqueña? De ser así ¿dónde pueden encontrarse sus huellas? Pocos cronistas tempranos mencionan acontecimientos en Thiya Wanaku. Solo dos de ellos: Blas Valera, conocido a través de las obras de Anello Oliva y un autor anónimo citado por Montesinos presentaron datos al respecto, mostrando que, en el siglo XVI, se conservaba en el Perú una tradición de un imperio anterior al Cuzqueño. a partir del análisis de la "Relación de la provincia de los Pacaxes" se sugiere que la tradición apuntada por el corregidor en 1608 contenía informaciones sobre Thiya Wanaku y que la búsqueda de largas tradiciones orales, pese a las dificultades que presenta, pude brindarnos datos interesantes.  Este artigo aborda um dos problemas mais sérios da história de Tawantin Suyo em geral e de Qulla Suyu em particular: o problema da longa tradição. Existia uma tradição descrevendo eventos anteriores à conquista de Cusco? Em caso afirmativo, onde encontrar seus vestígios? Poucos cronistas antigos mencionam eventos em Thiya Wanaku. Apenas dois deles: Blas Valera, conhecido pelas obras de Anello Oliva, e um autor anônimo citado por Montesinos, apresentaram dados sobre o assunto, mostrando que, no século XVI, uma tradição de um império anterior ao império de Cusco foi preservada no Peru. Com base na análise da "Relación de la provincia de los Pacaxes", sugere-se que a tradição registrada pelo corregedor em 1608 continha informações sobre Thiya Wanaku e que a busca por longas tradições orais, apesar das dificuldades que apresenta, poderia nos fornecer dados interessantes. application/pdf https://revistascientificas.filo.uba.ar/index.php/MA/article/view/13461 spa Sección Etnohistoria, Instituto de Ciencias Antropológicas. FFyL, UBA https://revistascientificas.filo.uba.ar/index.php/MA/article/view/13461/11838 Derechos de autor 2003 Memoria Americana. Cuadernos de Etnohistoria Memoria Americana. Cuadernos de Etnohistoria; Vol. 11 (2003); 33-49 Memoria Americana. Cuadernos de Etnohistoria; Vol. 11 (2003); 33-49 1851-3751 0327-5752 Tawantin Suyu Qulla Suyu Thiya Wanaku long tradition Tawantin Suyu Qulla Suyu Thiya Wanaku larga tradición Tawantin Suyu Qulla Suyu Thiya Wanaku longa tradição About the possibilities of finding traces of a long historical tradition in the sources of the 16th and 17th centuries Acerca de las posibilidades de encontrar huellas de una larga tradición histórica en las fuentes del siglo XVI y XVII Sobre as possibilidades de encontrar vestígios de uma longa tradição histórica nas fontes dos séculos XVI e XVII info:eu-repo/semantics/article info:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersion https://repositoriouba.sisbi.uba.ar/gsdl/cgi-bin/library.cgi?a=d&c=MA&d=13461_oai
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Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
long tradition
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
larga tradición
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
longa tradição
spellingShingle Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
long tradition
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
larga tradición
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
longa tradição
Szeminski , Jan
About the possibilities of finding traces of a long historical tradition in the sources of the 16th and 17th centuries
topic_facet Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
long tradition
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
larga tradición
Tawantin Suyu
Qulla Suyu
Thiya Wanaku
longa tradição
description The paper deals with one of the most serious problems in Tawantin Suyu and Qulla Suyu histort: the problem of long tradition. Did it exist a tradition describing events prior to the Cuzco conquest? If it did, where can we find its traces? Few early chroniclers describe events in Thiya Wanaku. Only two of them: Blas Valera, known through Anello Oliva's work and an anonymous author mentioned by Montesinos presented same date regarding a preceding tradition of Cuzco empire in Peru. By analyzing the "Relación de la provincia de los Pacaxes" this work suggests that the tradidion pointed out by the Corregidor in 1608, contained information about Thiya Wanaku. Thus, searching for long oral traditions, even with its limitations and difficulties, can give us interesting data. 
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