¿Qué parte del alma es “τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν” en Rep. 10.603a7-8?
The mention of ‘something of the base in us’ (τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν) at Rep. 10.603a7-8 has been mostly understood, on the basis of the tripartite division of the soul in Book 4 of the Republic, as referring to the ἐπιθυμητικόν of the soul, or, alternatively, to the ἐπιθυμητικόν and the θυμοειδές, a...
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I26-R133-article-142122025-12-01T19:19:13Z ¿Qué parte del alma es “τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν” en Rep. 10.603a7-8? What part of the soul is “τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν” at Rep. 10.603a7-8? Fierro, María Angélica Plato Republic Parts of the soul Rationality Irrationality Plato Platón República Partes del alma Racionalidad Irracionalidad Platón The mention of ‘something of the base in us’ (τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν) at Rep. 10.603a7-8 has been mostly understood, on the basis of the tripartite division of the soul in Book 4 of the Republic, as referring to the ἐπιθυμητικόν of the soul, or, alternatively, to the ἐπιθυμητικόν and the θυμοειδές, as irrational aspects of the soul. According to this exegetical line, the appetitive part –or rather, the appetitive and the spirited– would include, according to the developments at Rep. 10.602c4-606d7, not only the appetites, as in the treatment Book 4, but also a certain capacity of judgement in relation to sensoperception, as well as overflowing emotions of the soul. In this interpretation ‘something of the base in us’ seems then to be a heterogeneous set of psychic elements of diverse characteristics, agglutinated in the appetitive part. I intend to show here that ‘something of the base in us’ refers, centrally, to the corruption of the λογιστικόν by a misuse of this part of the soul, and derivatively to those other aspects of the soul that can distort the judgements of reason and its proper functioning, such as not only the appetites, but also sensitive perceptions –especially those that are deceptive– as well as disruptive emotional states. La mención a “algo de lo ruin en nosotros” (τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν) en Rep. 10.603a7-8 ha sido mayoritariamente entendida, en base a la división tripartita del alma en el Libro 4 de la República, como una referencia a lo ἐπιθυμητικόν del alma, o bien, a lo ἐπιθυμητικόν y lo θυμοειδές, en tanto aspectos irracionales del alma. Según esta línea exegética, la parte concuspiciente –o bien, la concuspiciente y la irascible– incluiría, de acuerdo a los desarrollos en Rep. 10.602c4-606d7, no sólo los apetitos, como en el tratamiento Libro 4, sino también una cierta capacidad de juicio en relación con la sensopercepción, además de emociones desbordadas del alma. En esta interpretación “algo de lo ruin en nosotros” pareciera ser entonces un conjunto heterogéneo de elementos psíquicos de características diversas, aglutinados en la parte concuspiciente. Me propongo mostrar aquí que “algo de lo ruin en nosotros” refiere, centralmente, a la corrupción de lo λογιστικόν por un mal uso de esta parte del alma, y en forma derivada a esos otros aspectos del alma que pueden distorsionar los juicios de la razón y su buen funcionamiento, tales como no sólo los apetitos, sino también las percepciones sensibles –sobre todo las que son engañosas– y los estados emocionales disruptivos. ARFIL y UNL 2025-08-04 info:eu-repo/semantics/article info:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersion Text Texto application/pdf https://bibliotecavirtual.unl.edu.ar/publicaciones/index.php/index/article/view/14212 10.14409/topicos.2025.47.e0122 Tópicos. Revista de Filosofía de Santa Fe; No. 47 (2025): Tópicos. Revista de Filosofía de Santa Fe; e0122 Tópicos. Revista de Filosofía de Santa Fe; Núm. 47 (2025): Tópicos. Revista de Filosofía de Santa Fe; e0122 1668-723X 1666-485X 10.14409/topicos.2025.47 es https://bibliotecavirtual.unl.edu.ar/publicaciones/index.php/index/article/view/14212/20511 Derechos de autor 2025 María Angélica Fierro https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0 |
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The mention of ‘something of the base in us’ (τῶν φαύλων τι ἐν ἡμῖν) at Rep. 10.603a7-8 has been mostly understood, on the basis of the tripartite division of the soul in Book 4 of the Republic, as referring to the ἐπιθυμητικόν of the soul, or, alternatively, to the ἐπιθυμητικόν and the θυμοειδές, as irrational aspects of the soul. According to this exegetical line, the appetitive part –or rather, the appetitive and the spirited– would include, according to the developments at Rep. 10.602c4-606d7, not only the appetites, as in the treatment Book 4, but also a certain capacity of judgement in relation to sensoperception, as well as overflowing emotions of the soul. In this interpretation ‘something of the base in us’ seems then to be a heterogeneous set of psychic elements of diverse characteristics, agglutinated in the appetitive part. I intend to show here that ‘something of the base in us’ refers, centrally, to the corruption of the λογιστικόν by a misuse of this part of the soul, and derivatively to those other aspects of the soul that can distort the judgements of reason and its proper functioning, such as not only the appetites, but also sensitive perceptions –especially those that are deceptive– as well as disruptive emotional states. |
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